Okay, I'd like to call the Senate State Affairs Committee meeting to order. Let the record reflect that it is 332 p.m. We are currently in the belts committee room in June, Alaska Members present vice chair senator Bjorkman senator will a cow ski Senator Tilton, Senator Great Jackson will be joining us online. My self-chair Kawasaki, we have a quorum to connect business. I'd like to thank Kerry Tupoe from Senate Records and David Monroe, the moderator with the Legislative Information Office. Today we just have one agenda item and that's an overview of the Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority, or ADA as we know it, They, I know that Randy Rauraro is in another meeting, but may be joining us toward the latter half of the meeting if we, unless we get out of here earlier than that. But online to present, we have Jeff Johns, the Chief Investment Officer and main presenter today. Kent Sullivan, General Counsel, I guess maybe just here for legal questions. Mark Davis, Special Counsel for historical and technical questions on specific projects. I would like to thank you for being here today and you may start your presentation. All right, good afternoon Chair, Vice Chair and committee members. For the record, my name is Jeffrey Johns. I currently serve as the Alaskan Industrial Development and Export Authority Chief Investment Officer, or ADA. I'm. As highlighted, I'm joined today by Aida's general counsel, Kent Sullivan, and for the record, I do have off-camera with me, Jeffrey San Juan, AIDA's infrastructure development program manager. Again, thank you for opportunity to testify and present to you AIDIS projects, Provide eight is up either project updates. And finally, I'd also like to address recently. It is credit rating received by S&P I see that you have the annual report up on screen, and that's a very excellent starting point Ada I think it was without question is is Understand that it is the state of Alaska's development finance authority aid exists to promote economic development, job creation, and retention solely within the state. ADA was primarily created by legislature to take on in-state development projects and business finance and lending risk. and finances projects largely, if not entirely, through ADA's pledged resources, namely it's revolving fund, and if necessary accessing funds that are invested and held with external managers that subject to ADA investment policy standard. ADA has two primary financing vehicles, underwrite, service the loan, and ADA can participate or purchase up to 90% of a loan to a maximum of $25 million. The LPP then delivers longer terms. It provides patient capital, as does ADA's other financing programs. Terms range from 15 to 25 years depending on the equipment 15 years real estate longer term 25 years. What this does is provide lower schedule payments for Alaskan businesses and the bank's borrowers. It's important to note that ADA does not compete or replace banks. The program is structured as a participation that keeps bank underwriting and banks in place facilitating additional lending by those participating Eight is other primary financing tool is its direct finance program or what we refer to as the 172 program which is defined in statute, specifically 4488172. latest channel for capital intensive revenue generating infrastructure and long duration assets that often don't fit within conventional financing. And again, our investments are solely within the state of Alaska and fulfillment of our mission, economic development and job creation. then runs a continuum from concept and feasibility through due diligence with increasing rigor before any board approval or project or financing documentation and execution. The discipline is repayment sources, credit strength, risk assessment, so that projects advance only if they align, as I said with our mission, statute, and of course subject to board approval. Other financing tools that we have in our toolbox are conduit revenue bonds. ADA can issue taxable or tax exempt conduit revenue bond for eligible projects. In this case, ADA only serves as the conduit, which means that ADA's credits and assets are not at risk. We facilitate borrower lending, in this We also have two smaller programs that are capitalized with ADA funds but that are facilitated through the Department of Community Commerce and economic development. Those are the Small Business Economic Development Fund or SBED. SBed is a small business tool to find that startup and expansion that creates significant long-term employment and ineligible ADA communities, or I'm sorry, Alaska communities. December 2025, a three resolution G2512, S-bed was recapitalized up to $6 million. $3 million came out of eight as revolving fund and $2 million was allocated from the rural development initiative fund or RDIF, which I'll get to momentarily. over into SBED and the reason why this was done is because SBed is the more popular of the two programs administered by investments under DCCED. This recapitalization is expected to finance approximately 25 to 30 loans and create and preserve approximately 120 jobs as represented Mr. McCauley had indicated that investments would have to stop accepting applications and suspend lending for a period of up to nine months. As noted, the other DCED run program using eight of funds is the Rural Development Initiative Fund or RDIF. RDIA targets small remote Alaskan communities, up 5,000 individuals off-road or maximum 2, 000 on the road system. This program is job-linked, but is somewhat more constrained than SBED by statutory limits, geography, lower caps, and a higher interest rate and thus that is why SBed is the more popular of the two programs. Collectively, these programs have in excess of 60 loans outstanding. The total principle of those loans' outstanding is about $14.5 million. The average loan size is approximately $225,000, and currently they have a 0% delinquency rate. Transitioning over to ADA's financial contribution, and this is also represented in ADA annual report. It has collectively paid in aggregate in excess of $520 million in dividends to the state commencing in fiscal year 1997. Recently the ADA Board approved a $17 million dividend for fiscal Year 25, which is to be paid and fiscal Year 27. There is a two-year lag. So this year, for example, ADA paid an $11 million dividend that was declared in Fiscal Year 2023. These dividends, as defined in statute, are the direct, recurring way that ADA converts its investment and project success into state of Alaska's general fund in support of a state of Alaskans general funds. As you'll see in the annual report, and I'm sorry, I am jumping around a bit and don't have the page numbers, but ADA's fiscal year 2025 net position was approximately $1.5 billion. which was an increase in net position and of approximately $69.5 million. Moving on in the annual report, there's the section that commences with project status and project updates. I'm, my goodness, I'll get here momentarily. Page 21 and page 22. I will not follow the exact structure of the annual report, but I address those projects presented. I'd like to begin with the Ambler Access Project. Ambler is a proposed 211-mile industrial access road from the Dalton Highway into the Ambular Mining District to unlock critical minerals development in northwest Alaska. The purpose of the road is to access multiple mines, deposits over time, plus a broader exploration potential that includes in excess of 1,700 active mining claims in the region and district. The district is widely described as copper dominant with copper zinc, lead, cobalt, associated gold, silver. And federal reports indicate that there's also strategic gallium and germanium present. It is forecasted eight of forecasts through its partners that the project will create the road. During the four-year construction period, approximately 140 or 141 jobs annually during road operations, the estimated fiscal lifetime payments are in excess of $193 million to the local municipalities and communities, and approximately a billion dollars to the state tied to mining enabled by the presence and construction of the road. after approval of Ada's Enelka 1106 appeal and related executive direction federal approvals and permits were reinstated and Ada is planning on an extensive winter and summer field work program. Ada Board has approved up to a hundred and in excess of a 100 million dollars of financing of eight is on assets with Amblar Metals reimbursement commitment in excess of $30 million. The West Susindna project is another industrial access road that it is advocating for much closer to Anchorage of course. Mr. John Skye, can I? Yes, of course, just briefly. I did have a question, a couple of questions on Ambler. And just I'm reading off the slide deck and it is page it's page 24 the annual report, so I don't know if everybody's on that page right now The first Ambler's misspelled at the very top, but yeah other than that I just wanted to ask a couple questions about Amler in general The mine the road itself. Has it already been fully permitted? If, if I may, would you kindly permit me to defer to my colleague, Mr. San Juan? Yeah, absolutely. Whoever wants to speak. Thank you. Through the chair, is that representative Yorkman? Do you answer your question? I'm sorry. Sorry, Mr. Chair. The the federal the permits for the road have been permitted. So we have all of our federal permits. That was what the 1106 was granted. So those have being secured and we are in the process of securing the Federal permits as well. So, we anticipate having all our permits four right away completed for a federal and state in a near trip. Mr. San Juan on the permitting for the road It's listed here as a 200 mile or the background says 211 mile industrial road was that to be mean that it's only accessed by certain vehicles or is it You know, we've heard that. It might be accessible to the public or it might not be I think I Had heard at one point that was not going to Be accessible To the general public And thank you very much for that question, Mr. Chair. And you're correct. It is a private industrial access road only. That is what our permits stated. And it is, we have to keep all of our, all the access, private, industrial. And just to clarify, like the Pogo Mine Road, the 40 mile Poga Mine road that's up in Delta Junction area, that is also sort of an, it's a. I think it's a, I don't know if it is the same classification or not, but it is a private road as well, but there's some way that permitting access, there is some way to get permitting, permitted access. Will this not be that same type of situation? from the Pogo Road because the pogo road does have the permit on that one actually has a private a public portion of it that basically once a certain once the mind is done it's acknowledged that it will be transferred over to public so that is completely different as when the But the permits acknowledge that there is public access. There's existing rights away, existing trails, activity happening on state land that allows the public to access once that road is completely the mind's done and it's no longer needed for private industrial. with private industrial access only, no public? And just one more question on Ambler Access. If Amblar Metals owns the rights of the road or rights of right away, and a mine is found along the right away but it's not by Ambular Metal, will that be accessible somehow? I think there's some similar discussions up on the North Slope where you've got sort of Santos and Conoco Phillips. Conico Phillips owns the road. Santos has a project that's off the road and they're trying to utilize it and I'm just curious if this excludes or would exclude other projects from happening from different types of mine operators in the area. I read question and and the way Ambler was set up was identical to the the long-mount transportation system which is the red dog road in port and red dog port contemplated multiple minds being developed and and transportation and access for each one of those individual minds so the because Ada owns that road import we already have the framework in our documents and operating agreements with Red Dog that allows, which we're modeling for AMBER, which will entail, do the same thing for all the potential mines along the corridor. And our permits with the state and federal government allow us to be able to provide access to all of the users. So users have to pay to utilize the AMBA road. So that is different than Santos where there's basically some confusion of who can do what. But our state and federal permits allow us to be the sole manager of the project and attain revenue sources. Be able to enter into agreements with the different minds to allow access along the road. Great, thank you, Mr. San Juan. Please continue. Wait, there is a question Vice Vice Chair Bjorkman, thank you chair Kawasaki. Mr. San Juan or anyone else, last year we heard a significant amount about this road as well as what the Nana Regional Corporation thought of the road. NANA was and had been in support of that project and now they were not in position changed? What is the current position of NANA regional on this road? Through the chair, Senator Bielkman, we are started to have conversations again with NANNA, and so we're working on trying to get a access agreement to do the winter work, so they have come back and at least are starting to communicate after we received our right-of-way So we are working with NANNA, and I think the relationship is starting to get rebuilt. So that's for the most part what I could share right now is that we are work on increasing our stakeholder outreach within their community and with the NANA region itself. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Moving on to the other principal industrial access road that it is is the project proponent for the West Susan access project This particular road is intended to establish dependable managed access into a region of the state land with significant development potential reducing logistics barriers and and um increasing investment and development for this part of the the state and region. Their project remains in early permitting in July 2025. It is submitted in individual section 404 permit application and jurisdictional determination to the US uh to request the US Army Corps of Engineers a key step before any construction decisions. is an industrial toll road structure as Mr. San Juan described very much like the Delong Mountain Transport System, the DMTS, so users bear a larger share of of long-term construction and maintenance costs rather than the general taxpayers. Section 1002 is approximately $1.5 million of a million acres in coastal plain area in the Amoir refuge that Congress specifically designated for potential oil and gas development. It holds coastal plain federal leases each with an initial term of 10 years that were issued initially after the 2021 BLM lease sale. In January 2025 executive order 14153 and the interior secretary order 3422 initiated steps to restore leasing permitting and reinstate the 2020 record and decision framework. In March 2025 Judge Sharon Gleason ruled, interior and properly cancelled ADA's leases, resulting in the reinstatement of ADA leases. Recently, ADA signed new lease agreements and remitted just under $11 million related to their reinstatement. However, beginning in fiscal year 2034, that payment will shift to 70% state, 30% federal government. ADA has already begun permitting pre-development seismic permitting work with a local company related to, again, its 3D seismic program, which we anticipate that will commence in approximately one year's time. Yes, please. So in 2018 when I think it was 2018, when the original lease sale came out, there were the, I don't know, 20 or so parcels, Aida picked up a handful of them. And then there were some others that were picked by private, private end holders. What happened to the other Yes, through the chair, Senator, those two particular leases, when eight as leases were cancelled in approximately June, July of 2020. Those two corporations, the simple way is they gave their leases back to the BLM. And they receive, I'm assuming they received their bonus bid payments and any other payments that were associated with that. Two of those two leases are actually important leases that ADA believes has significant resource potential. And I expect that we will receive board approval if requested to bid on those particular leases in a subsequently sale if and when that does happen. Thank you As we've already referenced here I would like to address the DeLong mountain transport system or DMTS the 52 approximately 52 mile road and port That aid of financed in support of the red dog mine Again, as I said, DMTS is the enabling 52-mile road import system that may have made the red dog mind possible, which of course is in the Northwest Arctic borough. In addition to the whole road and port facilities, it also contains fuel system storage and utilities. The local and regional fiscal impact of not only the mine and the road and port system has been significant. The Northwest Arctic borough has received in excess of $300 million in revenue, including approximately $ 300 million of PELTER payment in lieu of taxes. And since 2018, the Village Improvement Fund has generated in access of 50 million dollars. DMTS provides for approximately 500 direct year-round jobs, plus approximately 1,100 indirect or induced jobs statewide. Total wages exceed $150 million annually, and more than half There's been in excess of two billion dollars in royalty payments over the project life with approximately 1.8 billion dollars Distributed to Ada or Alaska native corporations through the seven I and seven G seven J payment and revenue sharing program Tech Red Dog's operators and total taxes that have paid to the state are estimated to exceed $1 billion. And sustaining that requires new or bodies beyond currently permitted reserves, as I'm sure the committee members are aware that the mine life end of mine life is anticipated to come. to a close here in approximately 2031. However, tech, of course, is moving forward on the possibility of developing additional reserves in two particular ore bodies that are on state land. The next project I'd like to briefly address is, yes, please. Do you have a question about the red dog? It mentions here about 1,000 nanoshare holders. Do have any idea what that? I guess within the mind footprint itself, what the percentage of labor is that's local labor, or at least Alaska in-state hire? Through the chair, Mr. Chair, I don't particularly have that breakdown, but I can certainly get that for you in a subsequent follow-up unless my colleagues are aware of that particular statistic. Kent is indicating no, and Mr. San Juan does not have that. So if I may, I will jot that down as an action item. Okay. Then based on that and based on the economic impacts that are being touted in this particular Red Dog Project, can you tell me about Amblar? If Amble were to have the- 500 direct jobs, 495 direct job, $72 million in wages, and 3,436 additional indirect or induced jobs within the region. According to the slide, what would, are you, or is the ADA Board requiring that Amblur Metals or that the producers or whoever is involved with the project at the end commit I can answer that through the chair. For the AMBLA project, when you see the total amount of economic activity, it's strictly for the road itself. When we talk about the mines, that's where the majority of the jobs actually transpire. And AMBLEA Metals has a partnership with NANNA, and the same arrangement that NANA has with tech applies to AMBERA METALS. So that means that they do have a preferential hiring target for Nana shareholders for the Amla Mining District. I mean, not the Amma Mining district, but the AMLA Metals prospect of Arctic and at Bournite. So, ADA itself does not, we cannot have a targeted shareholder higher preference as a state agency, but NANA and its partnership and agreement with AML Metels is completely separate from our project. Okay, thank you for that clarification, Mr. Sanlon. On the road construction and operations, it also quotes that there's 360 direct jobs for the Road construction period, 81 direct-jobs annually for road operation and maintenance. Would those be, I mean, is there anything that can commit the hiring of the road maintenance and the road-construction to be local hire and Alaskan hires? I'll ask Kent to give kind of his feedback regarding shareholder hire on that one. But Kent, can you provide the response to that, please? I can. Good afternoon, members of the committee and Chair Kawasaki. My name is Kent Sullivan, General Counsel for ADA. Last name, S-U-L-l-I-V-A-M for the record. The challenges is that as a state entity to the extent that ADIS is letting out any contracts for construction on Ambler Road, ADIT itself is prevented from doing any preferential hire for Alaska Natives. But that being said, to that there are portions of the road that are going end up holding those contracts to perform that work across their own lands or have entities bid on those. Certainly, Nana and Doyon have the ability to invoke shareholder preference with regard to workers that are performing that on their lands. So that can happen on would administer, it's not possible to do a shareholder hire preference. Okay, so actually this might be a question for you as general counsel. You know, Ada's role is since 1967 was to make sure to diversify the state economy, provide jobs and sort of employment opportunities within the State of Alaska for Alaskans. And I'm just curious, does that still hold that ADA wants to ensure that that is something that's taken into account when they're making sort of these either loans or conduit revenue bonds or any of those types of things, that, a discussion that sort overrides the entire discussion. Mr. Chair, yes, the answer to that question is we absolutely do. It's a big consideration and a factor when we look at projects, when we looked at loans, and when they look applicants, the number of jobs that will be generated, who will hold those jobs, where the company is from and the jobs that they're creating, all of that is a major factor and major consideration. in doing what Ada does. It certainly is, and it's a big part of the conversation. So with that, it is a part the conversations, but so you're saying that Ada as a board can't use that as preference or as an under it when it is being negotiated, that whatever company does get alone a bond or or something like that doesn't have I mean isn't to the maximum extent of the law sort of being able to I me forced to hire Alaskans first. Is that not something that Ada can do? So mr. Chair when we have contracts that are sent out for RFP or we're seeking proposals Certainly we have the ability to have Alaska preference, if you will, on many of those contracts, but that's different than shareholder preference with regard to Alaska Native corporations. Alaska preferences is something that can be invoked at times under certain circumstances, but shareholder preferences are something they cannot. And when I say that jobs are a major consideration, I'm talking about jobs generally, not simply shareholder jobs and not We do look at a company and if the project is large enough, roughly what percentage do they look at folks coming from out of state or what percentage of folks would be hired in state. But generally speaking, we're looking at job creation as a whole and the amount of salary and whatnot that would be associated with those jobs whether they're high paying jobs low paying jobs that type of thing but not we don't generally differentiate between elastic shareholder higher and Alaska here Great. Thank you, mr. Sullivan senator Bjorkman has a question Thank You chair Kawasaki Could you please talk a little bit about how the economics of red dog mind change as? the mine site moves from its current location to state land. I'll let Jeff answer that if we could. Yeah, through the chair, the economics that we have with the existing agreement with Reddong, we entered into a 50 year agreement, with tech. And so, that 50-year agreement contemplates a minimum annual assessment for the duration of the agreement, which we entered into 1990, therefore, we expect to have payments of the minimum Annual Assessment until 2040. So regardless of what happens at the mine site, tech will be making a minimal manual payment to ADA. incentives based upon tonnage of the traffic that goes through the port, as well as the commodity prices of zinc escalators. So, depending on the price escalator and the tonnech, ADA has been receiving additional revenue based on those two metrics. But from once the, if for our two state lands. Ada will continue to receive revenue until 2040. Thank you for that answer. Okay, you can continue. Thank you. Moving on, I would I'll segue to the interior energy project or the interior gas utility. This particular entity exists to lower long-term energy costs by expanding natural gas allergy supply storage and distribution for broadly speaking the Fairbanks, North Star Burrow and North Pole via the IGU. of sustainable energy transmission and supply data sets SCTS program. The first North Slope LNG delivery came in October 2025, reducing the demand on cooking let natural gas from South Central. Regular truck deliveries or L&G truck deliveries recently began in December of 2025 and there's averaging approximately 70,000 gallons a day. The IGU now serves approximately 3,600 customers with a distribution system exceeding 230 miles with air quality benefits from reduced PM 2.5 particulate matter, of course, as we are aware that Fairbanks and surrounding area does suffer from that in particular in the winter time. This particular shipyard, of course, is a major ADA-owned maritime industrial facility supporting Alaska Marine Highway system festivals and other state, federal, and commercial maritime work, keeping maintenance jobs and spend within the state as opposed to sending it outside particular down in the Pacific Northwest. to an entity referred to or called JAG Alaska JEG Marine Group. Operations activity and activity has surged. The workforce has grown from approximately 15 to 150 on site and there is a strong backlog over the next 18 to 24 months in terms of projects in the JUG pipeline. Also, ADA and JOG are explicitly building training and career pathways tied to shipyard and maritime trades as we understand that there is a quite a bit of shortfall of marine electricians for the ship yard given the pipeline of projects and vessel repair and maintenance work that JAG has already secured. Moving much further up into the into this state. Specifically, the North Slope, I'd like to address recently closed financing for an entity called Aliascam. The Aliescam Northslope plant is a first-of-its-kind public-private financing, as I said, for industrial plant in approximately three to four miles west of Dead Horse. It is anticipated to produce approximately 750 barrels a day of methanol and approximately 13 to 1400 barrels per day, of ultra low sulfur diesel. It's important to note that for all intents and purposes that one cannot or producer cannot produce a barrel of oil without the presence of methanol up in the North Slope. and support lower emissions operations relative to importing product from methanol, in particular from outside Alaska, and lower input cost to North Slope producers, as methanol is currently imported from Trinidad, Tobago, and Asia. ADA's financing for this particular project is initially a construction loan of up to 70 million dollars. It will convert into a 50 million dollar plus capitalized interest, senior secured term loan for 10 years, plus what we've characterized as a 20 million dollar retirement of the loan in lieu of what we characterized a royalty which is a price per gallon for both products produced through the plant up to its name plate capacity for no less than 50 years. And this particular royalty payment does survive any type of change of control if, for example, ownership changes. As of the end of December of this past year, progress for the construction of the plant remains aligned with the approved baseline schedule. Mechanical completion is forecast for early 2027, with commissioning and testing coming shortly thereafter. So essentially, the project is on schedule and on budget. Another recent ADA financing, it is related to Cook Inlet natural gas supply, in particular for Hex Cook inlet or Fury Operating Alaska. It has recently closed and funded the first draw on a $50 million revolving credit facility that supports drilling and production for financing for hex Fury operating Alaska who This is obviously aimed at stabilizing and expanding in state natural gas supply. Hex's publicly reported production share of quick inlet gas is currently at 7.5 percent. Hex management is targeting greater than a 10 percent share cookie and let natural gas supply with additional drilling and decided the potential for any up towards a 15% longer term if development succeeds and this will be facilitated. These targets will be facilitating through ADA's established revolving line of credit. It's important to note to the jobs question is that upon acquiring the company, Hex focused on transitioning jobs from out-of-state Alaska residents, and they've moved from one Alaskan employee to over 20 within the first year, they do have an Alascan higher focus. Another flagship asset that ADA owns is the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport, the FedEx MRO facility. This particular facility is a revenue-producing asset for ADA. It generates approximately $1.7 million a year paid to ADA through lease payments occupied by FedEx. particular facility since approximately 1995. This facility supports approximately 50 to 60 skilled aircraft maintenance jobs, keep specialized aviation work within Alaska, and recently ADA invested approximately $3 million in replacing the roof to protect and preserve the is the Department of Military Investment Affairs, the U.S. Coast Guard Building on Joint Base Elmondor Richardson. This is a pay-free paid-for-use ADA-owned asset that generates in excess of a million dollars a year in payments to ADA, which are fixed through calendar year 2043. When the project was constructed, it was delivered ahead of schedule, and under budget, it produced approximately 80 construction jobs and helped retain in excess of 100 acreage-based Coast Guard jobs. I'd like to address a few projects that are not actually represented and projects and financing that aren't represented in the annual report. One is the blood bank of Alaska loan facility. ADA financed $8.5 million as a part of a $45 million loan to build and expand Alaska's in-state blood testing facility in Anchorage. At the time, construction supported approximately 130 jobs and a total of 230 jobs, both indirect and induced. During the COVID-19 pandemic, acted with a guarantee and temporary relief relief to maintain uninterrupted statewide blood services. Another project that is not represented in the annual port is ADA financing to Huna Totem Corporation and the Icy Strait Point facility, not too far from Juneau. to what it was referred to as the phase two development, which includes a 500 foot floating dock and a welcome center which strengthened the visitor economy in HUNA. This is in fact a unique structure is because Ada Direct partnered with Ada's loan participation program establishing a loan facility in excess of $30 million. The destination now sees approximately 240 seasonal cruise ship visits and over 500,000 passengers each year. The project converts tourism into local employment and is the largest employer in HUNA, which has a community population of approximately 1, 000 individuals. aid us projects and aid is financing. I'm happy to entertain any particular questions that the committee may have. If not, I would very much like to transition over to the Northern Economics document, the 16 page executive summary that was provided to The Committee. And Jeff and Mr. Chair, if I could, I have just a few points of clarification that I'd like to make about some of our other earlier testimony. you bet mr. Sullivan thank you mister check um one thing i wanted to clarify is well certainly it's true that the ombler access project is going to be a private industrial road um it is important to um but the committee understand why that is With regards to the M.R. Access Project, because that's a 211-mile road, it covers a very broad geographic area, and as the committee is aware, it crosses both Nana land and Doyon land. And one of the big concerns that both, Nanna and Doanon have, is potential impacts to subsistence users and to the native communities along the road. And so, one of the requirements for being allowed to potentially have access across Nana and Doyan land is that the Road be private. And, so there's really no way for the project to move honouring that commitment and that requirement. So that's the reason why the Ambler Access Project requires construction of a private industrial road. On the other hand, I'd like to point out that some of the early testimony may have been a little bit unclear as to the West's Sitna project. The Wests Sitner project is differentiated from the Ambler Access project and along both the DOT portion of the road, as well as the ADA portion of road. So it's different than Ambler in that the Weso Center project is intended to be a public road at this point. Um, the other thing I'd like to point out is that, um, and where metals will not be owning the entirety of the andler access road, I think it was suggested in a, in question that perhaps that might be the case. Instead, the plan at this point is that all stakeholders. along the road, including the mining companies that will use it, not just Amblur Nuddles, but other mining companies, as well as Nana and Doyon, will have likely an ownership interest in the road or at least in The Legal Unity that is formed to hold and manage the road. And so it won't be just one mining clear that up. And then finally, with regard to preferential hire, as I pointed out earlier, it is a state corporation is not allowed to have preferential higher for Alaska Native Corporation shareholders. But on the other hand, we do when we do RFPs, We do allow a preference to be given, but that preference isn't to companies that invoke Alaska hires, instead that preference is to Alaska companies. So, Alaska entities that are formed and organized and domiciled in Alaska, that's where the preference goes to on many of our RFPs, so I just want to make that clarification as well. And that is all I have, but happy to answer any follow-up questions for me if you might have on those. Thank you, Mr. Sullivan. Senator Bjorkman. Thank you, Chair Kawasaki, through the chair to Mr. Sullivan. Mr Sullivan, I heard you mention concerns about wildlife impacts Wasn't there a study that was released at the end of calendar year 2025 that said the Ambler Road would have minimal impact On caribou herds that is that it might encounter That is correct mr. Pardon me sir, I'm working through the chair, that is correct, and I'll have Jeff address that particular study that you're referencing. I was speaking to the concerns that Nana and Doyon have raised. They've been particularly concerned about potential impacts to wildlife and to subsistence uses along the road. And so that's where their concerns are, but you're correct that we did release a study just recently that addressed that the Road will have minimal impacts too wildlife. But Mr. San Juan, if you want to address that in any more detail, feel free. Yeah, thank you through the chair. Senator Bergman. That is correct. Ada did release once in October, November a study from Dr. Matthew Cronin regarding the impact of of the Amla Road to the Western Arctic Kerber herd. That was a concern of many of the community members from the Northwest Arctic Bureau, as well as in the Doryell region, as far as the potential impact of Kerbeu of our road on the west of Arctic Herber herd. And the findings were that the the western Arctic north and west of the proposed Amler Access Project. And so it doesn't mean that the Caribou do not sometimes cross the Amner Road, but it is not in the regular, reoccurring, far migration pattern of the Western Arctic Caribourhood, which is typically on the western side of around the community of Amber and Shudnek. And so that was one of the key findings. But most importantly also acknowledges that some of the causes to the decline of Western caregiver is without the road currently that is anticipated is weather events from icing, as well as events related to predation. And so predations seems to be a big cause of the potential decline of the Western Arctic care we've heard, as long as significant weather events that has caused more of the significant declines throughout the different years. And, so, that was some of the main findings, it also kind of discusses and shows maps related to the the long mountain transportation system and with the long amount of transportation systems, the actual careable migration, that is the regularly occurring migratory route for the Western Arctic Kerberghur. So he does acknowledge that the long-mounting transportation isn't a heart of a regular occurring migration pattern. And it's not one of the causes of, of decline if the west are occurred before it. So there's some of the key findings of that report. Can't think of anything else, but it is definitely a good study by Dr. Cronin. Thank you for that clarification. Thank you very much. I did have a question. It was on a very, very early slide and had to do with the Rural Development Initiative Fund. And I was just reading a little bit more about what it is and it's for populations of 5,000 or less, not connected to road rail to Anchorage or Fairbanks or a population of 2,00 or last connected by roadrail. So for the public's information, it mentioned that you were recapitalizing economy, you know, economic fund, small business, economic development program, that's it, small-business economic-development program with three million transferred from the art, from rural one to that one, and it is, does that leave the rural ones without any funds, or was there a strategic reason why that was done? Mr. Chair, it's a very good question. In fact, as noted, so in March of 2025, the S-BED program, the Small Business Economic Development Program, had less than $300,000 in cash. It had a pipeline of in excess of $1.5 million of loan applications. As noted that the only way that the DCCD Division of Investments Director, fund any of those is they'd have to suspend lending for approximately six months to allow the revolving fund related to Aspen to recapitalize based upon payments. The board resolution in December again took three million dollars from eight as revolving fun to re-capitalize Asped. as noted, is the lesser of the two, or least popular of, the two programs. S-BED in late 2025 had approximately $6 million in it. So we're taking three out of that $ 6 million from our RDIF to put into S BED for an aggregate recapitalization of up and it's up to $3 million out-of-the-RDIF, but for conversational purposes we'll say Half from ADA, half from the RDIF. Great. Thank you very much for clarifying that. And if there's no further questions on the report, we have next, I think, the, let's see, impact or impacts of the report on the economic and fiscal contributions of the Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority. It's dated January 2026 and it's the document that's in your binders. Correct or as we have referred to as the Northern Economics Report Executive Summary brochure it Oh, segue air transitioning to that. Northern economics and through legislation has concluded and written that ADA was built or constructed to do the hard things that private capital often avoids in Alaska. Provide long-term patient risk adjusted capital and infrastructure adjacent investments shaped by distance. logistics, seasonality, and small markets. The Alaskan legislature made a deliberate policy choice. The permanent fund would act and serve as long-term wealth trust, and ADA would serve, as the development finance shield that absorbs risks and protects the permanent fund from lending pressure. There are two important quotes in the executive brochure that if you'll permit me, I'd like to read them. One, the first one is from David Rose or Dave Rose, the First Director of the Alaska Permanent Fund and Ada's First Executive Director. Mr. Rose put it plainly in his book, saving for the future. The Permanent fund is a trust fund for the people of Alaska. Ada was established to help finance Alaska development projects, which are often very risky and sometimes fail completely. Mr Rose. Later on in his book, to specifically chapter 9, explained why Ada exists as a distinct institution rather than a function inside the permanent fund. I quote, we could create a development bank out of in parenthesis Ada rather then creating one using the Permanent Fund. Ada would become a shield absorbing the risk of the state of state lending and deflecting political pressure created by, and I, quote loan crazies. There's another important quote in the brochure. This is based upon an interview that Northern economics had directly with Eric Wolford. Mr. Wolfford explained that Ada's dividends further cushion the need for the state to tap the permanent fund to make up shortfalls in Ada General Fund, and that this makes Simply put, in other words, aid is not just a financing tool, it is an institution designated to generate statewide economic output, and to convert a portion of that success into reoccurring general fund support through a statutorily defined dividend mechanism. The implant model, which is widely used for this type of assessment, as the ADIS has contributed in excess of $60 billion in cumulative economic output from the period 1987 through to 2025 and 2022 dollars to the state of Alaska. Most of that is durable operations. Approximately $28 billion through direct operations output and an additional $25 billion of indirect and induced operations, construction is added about $3.5 or $4 billion and then an additional two billion dollars of direct and reduced. It's long-lived operating activity that sustains jobs and payroll year after year. As employers noted, how did Northern economics reach the $60 billion conclusion? So Northern Economics defines economic output as direct plus indirect plus induced effects, and it used the implant input-out model of Alaska's economy to estimate those. In plan is short for impact analysis and planning. It is a regional input-output economic modeling system used to estimate how a change in spending or production ripples through economy. In this case, how aid is investments, owned finance projects have rippled and translated throughout the Alaskan economy? The study is transparent on its data limits. For example, Alaska employment wage data is considered confidential without firm authorization. Approximately 60% of the businesses contacted directly did provide data just supplemented by third-party research to verify where possible. And the concluding from Northern Economics is that ADA is a development tool that also generates recurring budgetary and fiscal support for Alaska and Alaskans. I'd like to conclude my remarks on Northern economics and I'm happy to entertain any additional questions or any questions that the committee may have at this point in time. Yes, so we have, as a committee, been sort of waiting for this Northern Economics report, and we did get a copy of the 16 page, looks like 16 pages in total executive summary. When does ADA intend to have the rest of this document, and what was the holdup? In my capacity, I had certainly provided extensive comments to Northern economics. Those have been shared with Ada's executive director as Mr. Raro, Randy Rarro, Ada executive director has testified previously. It was the executive directors' decision to review the documentation and the more comprehensive report. And that communication was I stalled for a suite of reasons, personal health reasons not only from a native perspective but also that from northern economics. We understand that it is long time been coming and we do anticipate now that we've been able to release and have approval as staff to share the executive summary, the more comprehensive report will follow quite shortly thereafter. What exactly does that mean as far as quite quickly? Mr. Chair, as of January the 15th, we received direct communication from Northern Economics. It says they were waiting for some final inputs from A to senior staff, and I expect that this will be available by the end of the month. That's the end of January then That correct approximately weeks time. Okay. Thank you. We will we will ask for that again Senator Bjorkman has a question. Thanks, Senator Kawasaki Thank You for for putting this report on the record right now. I appreciate that as well as the discussion of public funds used within Ada and Ada's production of other public Funds in the course of a dividend of course as we learned through the budgetary process last year that dividend could be at a wide range of numbers and some of the reappropriation of that dividends was vetoed and instead of $80 being used to fund some state expenditures money from the higher education fund was used Has Ada considered contemplated the consequences of potential expansion of the usual and customary aid of dividend if the legislature is unwilling to reconstitute funds that were pulled from the higher ed fund last year and what that might mean for future years? the claim that because Technically and an interesting claim again related to statements made here about public funds That public Funds although we now have established through the history of the fund as well as really the coal mingling of funds in and out of With with the dividend are used to build a road like Amblar that those funds not being, quote unquote, public would somehow justify that Amble Road not been able to be accessed by the general public. Now, Senator Bjorkman, through the chair, if I may, I would certainly defer that this response to the question to Ada's general counsel. And if we do not have an immediate response, we'll take this back and speak with with our executive director and senior staff and respond accordingly. Senator Bork then through the chair I'm happy to jump in there and answer your last question first and that is is there a connection between Public funds being used and the fact that the Amblor Road is intended to be a private industrial access road. There's no legal connection between those two just because public funds are used to construct a road does not mean that the road has to the public. And that's a long established that was the way the Dalton was built. The Dalton was built with public funds and yet, or with some public fund, pardon me, and any at the Dalton, was initially private and has been private, many portions of it for a long time. And Alaska has made clear that a road can be constructed using public funds, and, yet can still be regulated as being a private road. and this the second part of the question and I'm sorry the the other part of that question if you could remind me I am sorry senator right last year the legislature identified funds through the expansion of a to dividend to be a fund source for part our budget that we passed last year. The governor vetoed those funds and instead funds from higher education If the legislature is not successful in recapitalizing the higher education fund, is there any concern or has ADA contemplated that there will be more of an appetite to take money from ADA and expanding their dividend in the future? Senator working through the chair, I don't have an answer to that. I can certainly look into it and try to get back to you, but I don' t have a answer for you on that right now. I think that should be something that we all might contemplate. Also, although I appreciate the statement and the position and the precedent that public dollars can be used to make roads that I strongly and vociferously disagree with that practice. I think that that is not the way that we should be doing business in Alaska. Certainly that road is now going to be denied access to locals as I doubt that there would be enforcement in that area of the state to actually make that happen. I that if we're going build roads in this state that they be open to everybody to certainly public ground on those roads, and if private parties don't want to grant access through their private land, that's up to them. However, we have standards as we know about what it is we expect for development and moving across the country. And Thomas Jefferson, when he thought to put section line easements across the landscape and although it would be pretty hard to navigate section-line easement in a straight line in many parts of Alaska I think that concept of allowing access to and through land across a landscape is one that I think is pretty important so I just wanted to say that but thanks Thank you. Are there any further questions for any of the presenters today? Okay. Well, I just wanted to say that I appreciate you being able to be here in lieu of Mr. Raro who's probably still tied up with the other House State Affairs Committee meeting. General Counsel, Kent Sullivan, and Jeffrey Sanwan, who's working specifically on the Amblar Road Project. We wanted to thank you for your time. Thank you, for the presentation. And we look forward to seeing the rest of the report from Northern Economics within the month. So thank, you very much. Is there any other business to come before committee? That hearing none, we will be adjourning this meeting. I will let you know now that there will not likely be a meeting on Thursday, January 29th, but we'll cancel officially tomorrow morning during floor. Without any further ado, the meeting is adjourned. The record, let the record reflect time is 448.